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Former Hillary Clinton campaign manager John Podesta was asked an embarrassing question about the accusations that Russian interference helped tip the 2016 election to elect President Trump over his opponent.

Here’s the video of Podesta’s appearance:

NN host Nancy Cords interviewed Podesta about the recent indictments from special counsel Mueller’s investigation into Russian election intervention and alleged collusion.

“How is it that these Russian operatives knew to focus on purple states like Michigan and Wisconsin and your campaign didn’t?” she asked.

“Well, Of course we spent a lot of time and energy and effort in all those states,” Podesta responded.

“Hillary Clinton herself did not spend much time in those states,” Cordes objected.

“You know we had Tim Kaine was there, [former President] Barack Obama was in,” he explained, “and she spent enormous time in Pennsylvania initially. And we spent a lot of effort, we had more staff in Wisconsin than even President Obama had in 2012.”

“But I think that begs the question,” he continued. “I think we focused on places we thought were, that were in contest, and at the end of the day we fell short in those states and I think that this active measures effort by the Russians could have tilted the election in Donald Trump’s favor.”

“But I think what the real issue is how he has reacted to it,” he claimed. “And in that context, if this is information warfare then I think he’s the first draft-dodger in the war.”

“He has done nothing but tried to undermine the Mueller investigation,” Podesta charged, “he hasn’t implemented the sanctions that were passed by the Congress and that he signed in reaction to the activities in the 2016 election. We learned this week, he’s ordered no effort to try to get the intelligence community to get together to try to prevent further activities in the 2018 election.”

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said that there were no charges of Russian collusion in the indictments released against 13 persons who were involved in the Russian interference in the U.S. election. Some have pointed out that this doesn’t necessarily mean there won’t be future charges by Mueller on that account.

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By S.K.