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A former National Security Agency employee claimed in a shocking interview Friday night the NSA likely did spy on President Donald Trump’s phone calls and emails, as well as those belonging to justices on the Supreme Court, members of Congress, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff. NSA

In an appearance on Fox News Channel’s “Tucker Carlson Tonight,” hosted by longtime journalist Tucker Carlson, former NSA employee Bill Binney revealed he believes the NSA likely did spy on Trump and may even be spying on him now.


“As I just said in my intro, you spent 30 years there,” Carlson said to Binney. “You’re not someone whose just speculating. You believe it’s entirely possible that the president was, in fact, spied on?”

“Yes,” Binney replied. “In fact, they’re taking in fundamentally the entire fiber network inside the United States and collecting all that data and storing it, in a program, they call it, it’s Stellar Wind is the name for their program. That’s the domestic collection of data on U.S. citizens. … everything we’re doing: phone calls, emails, and then financial transactions, credit cards, things like that—all of it.”

In addition to the massive amount of data collected on all people, Binney, who served 36 years at the NSA, says another NSA whistleblower has said there is a program within the NSA designed specifically to spy on law-abiding officials serving at the highest levels of government.

“Inside NSA … they’re targeting and looking at all the members of the Supreme Court, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Congress—both House and Senate—as well as the White House,” Binney said. “And all of this data is there inside NSA at this small group, where they’re looking at it. And the idea is to see what people with power over you, what they think, what they think you should be doing, what they’re planning to do to you, your budget or whatever, so you can try to counteract it before it actually happens.”

In response to this shocking claim, Carlson said the program sounds “East German” and “illegal,” to which Binney said, “No, it isn’t [legal.]”

By S.K.